Why ophthalmology sdn Sep 9, 2007 #1 Does anyone know why Ophthalmology is not listed as a specialty under the 2007 NRMP outcomes? I also This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Sep 2, 2015 #1 why Ophthalmology is not part of the optometry school. Did SDN help you achieve your goal? Share how SDN helped and be featured in SDN’s 25th-anniversary celebrations! Forums. Joined Aug 24, 2013 Messages 2 Reaction score 0. You're all mixed up-- like pasta primavera. Dying surgical volumes?!?! Tell that to the pts around here who are waiting 1-2 months to get in for cataract surgery. YO Info Editorial Board. Do you worry about optometrists expanding scope of practice to the point they would Ophthalmology seems to have a lot of "hidden gems," and of the programs I interviewed at this was probably the most hidden and most gemmy. But we all also know step 2 is only 1 part of equation. I see on average 22-25 patients per day, my schedule can hold about 26-28 sometimes. If this is found to be a patient-specific question about your own eye problem, it will be removed within 24 hours pending its place in the moderation queue. I do injections, retinal lasers, etc. DO student here, and yes I am starting the age old thread of "what are my chances?" but I've been a SDN member for years and have posted less than 4 times total so I figured I'll put it out there. Armstrong, MD Liane O. Ophthalmology is a very specialized field with a narrow focus. Mauritius New Member. It even has a plastics path of its own. D. 24 Hours Careline: +603 56391212. KKLIU 0362 / EXP 31. Get the latest business insights from Dun & Bradstreet. You can contact [email protected] for more information. U. Online Resources for As a non ophthalmologist let me give my expert opinion (mostly sarcastic, take with a grain of salt). Specializing in EYE SPECIALIST CENTRE. OP asked why Ophthalmology is amazing. We are salaried and my base is approximately 270k at a 9/10s schedule. 12. Joined Mar 27, 2009 Messages 198 Reaction score 54. Inside joke if you When I am searching for scholarships or filling out applications that require to know what I plan to be from a list they have prepared for me. Optometry Communities (OD) why Ophthalmology is not part of the optometry school. Joined Aug 3, 2007 Messages 61 Reaction score 1. I'm an Ophthalmology Recruiter, so I thought I'd throw some real world experience and numbers out there. Never have I seen Ophthalmology. Joined May 24, 2007 Messages 189 Reaction score 0. And you can still make a killing as a cataract Cowboy in the boonies or retina and occuloplastics in less populated areas. Here's my stats. Registration Number 200501026663 (708797-H) Incorporation Date 06/09/2005. Fathy, MD Bradley S. Joined Mar 24, 2019 Messages 14 Reaction score 1. Just applied yesterday for this coming year's ophthalmology match. with 850 people applying for 520 spots it’s up there with derm. Sent from my iPhone using SDN mobile . Evan Silverstein, MD — Chair Sruthi Arepalli, MD Grayson W. You can choose the career you want to have. 2009) and The Student Doctor Network What Every Doctor Should KnowBut Was Never Taught in Medical School (SDN Academic Press, 2011). Joined May 28, 2015 Messages 34 Reaction score 60. Rest assured, we have the Best Eye Doctors & Eye Surgeons in KL. ) and I started considering Ophthalmology for the past 2 months, primarily because the eye is a wonderful organ, there is ample neurology to be studied, a similar potential for stand-alone medicine in the future, a good lifestyle, but Ophthalmology. Pretty good call, pretty good hours, mostly happy patients with no hospital rounding, while still getting to do surgery is why it’s such a competitive match. net comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Jul 20, 2019 #1 . Dallalzadeh, MD Cherie A. every year people match into a competitive speciality with great scores AND shitty step scores (204 on step 1 in urology, 215 derm, 220 ortho, 210 ophtho etc etc. I mean why should i go to medical school and then apply for residency to be Ophthalmology, isn't Ophthalmology the anatomy, functions Software defined networking (SDN) is an approach to network management that enables dynamic, programmatically efficient network configuration to improve network performance and monitoring. Ophthalmology: Eye Physicians & Surgeons . dr4444 Intern. : 708797-H ENG HONG OPHTHALMOLOGY SDN. For This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. If you don't like surgery you shouldn't even be considering ophthalmology. studentdoctor. So they try to get the easiest and cushiest medical internship. You should, however, be detail-oriented and comfortable working with your hands, which means not being a massive klutz. When This means Navy ophthalmology needs exceed current DOD scorp_doc; Thread; Aug 6, 2024; Hello SDN community, I'm a third year med student who's recently been contemplating applying to an ophtho residency (TLDR - Feel free to skip intro to bullets for a summary of my app). I would absolutely apply for those. While not all programs are created equal, a very 1. johngrad New Member. Most cataract cases take approx 20 minutues, eye muscle cases 45 -90 minutues, plastics/orbit cases 20 min-2hours, retina cases 45min-6hours, cornea cases 30 min-2 Why Ophthalmology is the best. Industries . R/premed has a strange hate towards SDN when in reality, the same type of people gravitate towards both. No: 200501026663), Embracing an authority in building a legacy in the Malaysian business community. You basically have 3 options at this point (assuming you're ride or die for ophtho): do a TY/prelim year, do a research year and defer, or apply for one of the -ophthalmologists order their own imaging, get OCT results in 5-10 min, interpret findings, diagnose, treat, and operate. I work with a lot of med students so I have some experience with this. Home PD feels confident about me matching, school advisor not so much. Remember that the Spring 2019 oral boards pass rate was ENG HONG OPHTHALMOLOGY SDN BHD was incorporated on 2005-09-06 in Malaysia with registration number of 0708797H / 200501026663. If you enjoy microsurgery and working with a delicate system, then retina is an extremely fulfilling field. Welcome to Subang Jaya Medical Centre Specialty Quiz from SDN! My top 3 were allergy and immunology (83% match), endocrinology (81% match) and ophthalmology (81% match). As someone who wore glasses his whole life, I knew about the field of Optometry. They identify and treat conditions or diseases that manifest in the eye through medicine and surgery. Shadow some doctors-- any doctors and if you like what you see then go to med school. American Academy of Ophthalmology Resources for Medical Students from the American Academy of Ophthalmology Hello! M3 here trying to gage competitiveness of my application. Ophthalmology is an ideal field for MD/PhDs. I haven’t heard of anyone matching below passing though the average I have gotten an email from an SDN administrator that it is not appropriate to post volatile topics and this thread has been classified as a volatile topic so I will signoff on this thread. Patients of all ages, from newborn to geriatric, may seek ophthalmologic care. Sorry if this is misguided (probably been on sdn too much). Surgical Retina Fellowships 2021-2022 (Applying 2020) This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Request an Appointment Share. It is a new way Unfortunately with medicine being as it is today it will be difficult for a general ophthalmologist to practice the full scope of ophthalmology, therefore subspecialization seems necessary in order to be competitive in the job market. Joined Aug 10, 2014 Messages 200 Reaction score 51. Resident. ROSNIZA BINTI AB. plastics and cornea? What are the drawbacks/cons of this sub Find company research, competitor information, contact details & financial data for ENG HONG OPHTHALMOLOGY SDN. Happy patients, good hours, low call burden, relatively decent to great pay, fun procedures etc still make it a great specialty. C. s720 New Member. . Optometrists, ophthalmic photographers, and other allied eyecare health professionals are welcome to join discussions as well. I've always heard it's an incredibly tough specialty to match into Ophthalmology: Eye Physicians & Surgeons Co-hosted with the AAO's Young Ophthalmologists Committee . ekaplun • Additional comment Ophthalmologist • Both SDN and r/premed are filled with people who want to pursue competitive specialties. Con: Hours can add up, lots of call, high stress life, must go IM route, research is a must, 7 years of residency Ophthalmology: Pro: Good pt interaction, good balance between The American Academy of Ophthalmology's newsletter for young ophthalmologists (YOs) — those in training as well as in their first few years in practice. Although Things to look for in an Ophthalmology program: Early cataract surgery exposure and good numbers, this is your bread and butter procedure. If this is found to be a patient-specific question about your own eye problem, it will be removed within 24 hours pending its place in the Hello SDN community, This has forced me to consider other possible specialties (as third year does to many. Solaris Scientific had developed a strong customer base with consistent Not OP but an ophthalmology resident in a different program. Find online Yellow Pages business listings, phone numbers, addresses, maps, article, events, and more in the Malaysia Yellow Pages. - subsidiary of CAH Medical Centres Sdn Bhd. Students with lower scores tend to have to achieve a lot more in other spheres in order to be noticed and to successfully match. Pantai Hospital Kuala Lumpur. Stay posted as several pre-residency fellowships will be posted on SDN in the next few days. The Telling OP they are a competitive applicant for moral support does not change the objective fact that all of their metrics are well below average for ophthalmology. Our ophthalmologists are committed to enhancing your vision and quality of life. Both. NORLAILI BINTI MUSTAFA (Resident) 2️⃣ DR. Cauchy Full Member. It's kind of a bring Ophthalmology Medical Centre of the Year 2022, 2023 & 2024 in Asia-Pacific Best Myopia Control Centre for Children Most Refractive Eye Treatments Provided in Malaysia. Jobs in both desirable and undesirable locations are wide open!!! There is way more retiring ophthalmologists than new graduating ophthalmologists since the number of residency spots has remained predominately stable over the decade. BHD. So far I find all the the main subspecialties appealing, but pediatric ophthalmology sounds more exciting to me. Salary year 1: $175 plus or minus 15% Lifestyle as an attending or resident? Attending lifestyle is great in both. I wanted to go back to the West Coast (que collective eye roll), but this was my top ranked program outside that region and I considered ranking it above some CA programs as well. Operation Hour. ceftazidime Full Member. Joined Oct 28, 2005 Messages 719 Reaction score 1. Learn it early and aim to do 200. Thread starter Dapathguy; Start This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Forums. Cardiology: Pro: Interesting field, lots of different procedures, good pt interaction, good balance between high octane and mellow time. There will of course be variations since both can do cosmetic procedures where there’s no ceiling to earning potential, and some high volume cornea surgeons and retina specialists can earn more than a general ENT. The average salary for ophthalmologists is $378,000. oogamous Full Member. Ophthalmology is competitive and increasingly so in the past 5 years. The average incentive bonus for ophthalmologists is $85,000. But being a top earner isn’t the main benefit of Ophtho to me. Jun 11, 2017 it gives me a wonderful stereoscopic view of the Ophthalmology salaries start a little lower than other specialties, around $200k (except for retina, which starts around $300k) but goes up steadily over your first several years in practice. 10+ Year Member. Not specialties I was looking at at all but I guess I should (except ophthalmology because ew eyes). The opportunity to make challenging clinical decisions and fix problems by hand on a daily basis is one of the best things about ophthalmology. O. Then you can can decide what you want to do. I can't figure out why ophtho is more competitive than gas, rads, etc. Nature of Business EYE SPECIALIST CENTRE Volk Ophthalmic Lens Review - EyeGuru I just wanted to share a review of Volk lenses for beginning residents who are in the market for new lenses. If you send me a PM or post, then please use the template below:--Board Scores:--AOA and class rank: if known--Reputation of medical school: (top 10, top 25, etc) Fellowship trained docs start higher. People are always negative there. But in actuality, anyone can be an ophthalmologist and there’s a wide variety of personalities. There are several reasons why she has chosen to apply to Optometry school instead, and one of the main reasons is This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. 2. A good way to improve the odds is by taking a research year after step 2 at a large research university. Verified Member. Wisconsin - great location if you don't mind the cold; poor surgical volume (although very good in plastics) and little autonomy; 4 months in NM during 3rd year was probably the deal-breaker; overall - academic powerhouse, but weak clinically. Take care of your eyes with our experts. About Us. Get as much face time as you can. Joined Sep 27, 2021 Messages 9 Reaction score 0. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors , and sponsors . School: DO school in the south USMLE step I: 252 If you matched, then remember to join the American Academy of Ophthalmology. Read the research by the attendings in the department and ask if there are any projects you can help on even before your rotation. Moreover, ophtho is one of the most heavily targeted specialties for reimbursement cuts year over year. If our lawmakers want to gather this info from a few statements off of SDN, and then make decisions on our reimbursement, we are screwed. r/OphthalmologyAnki: Building and sharing Ophthalmology Anki decks I am currently a Kaiser general ophthalmologist. There is a huge need for ophthalmology, and it’s not going away anytime soon. 9,10,11, Residensi Park Bukit Jalil, Persiaran Jalil Utama, 57000, Bandar Bukit Jalil, Kuala Lumpur. Osteopathy has very little to offer ophthalmology as well. of Klang, Selangor. I don't want money to be the determining factor for me but it got me looking into and reading about ophtho jobs and I saw that salaries after residency were actually pretty abysmal, around 225 starting in private practice and sometimes less than This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. S. Dr. That's up from $366,000 last year. With the economy the way it is and where it's going, exploding baby boomer population and no way of paying for it without cutting reimbursements even further, "predatory senior ophthalmology generation" unwilling to cut new guys a break, especially in the desirable areas, I would say that lower This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. SDN and reddit make it sound like general Ophthos make as much as cardiologists or I posted this reply in another thread on SDN, but it looks like it might be useful here too. But first SDN is a cesspool and always has been. Oct 9, 2021 #1 Got to shadow some Ophthalmologists at my school and found it pretty interesting. Joined Feb 10, 2006 However, her heart is always with Ophthalmology. Oct 5, 2007 Some retina cases in ophthalmology may take 5-6 hours, but this is not bread and butter ophthalmology. 2025. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Ophthalmology is at the forefront of biomedical research in gene therapy, stem cells and regenerative medicine, imaging, vascular biology Why Ophthalmology? Ophthalmology is an incredibly gratifying field, encompassing both medical and surgical treatments to preserve and improve sight for our patients. An ophthalmologist is required to go through Ophthalmic innovator offering an advanced range of precision ophthalmic and optometric equipment through an extensive world wide independent suppliers & manufacturers. I never see Ophthalmology. CoOlxtOny Full Member. This has gone on for Hospital Pakar An-Nur Hasanah Sdn Bhd (An-Nur Specialist Hospital) , 🌟 Introducing the Exceptional Ophthalmology Team at An-Nur Specialist Hospital, Bandar Baru Bangi! 🌟 Meet our Dedicated Ophthalmologists: 1️⃣ DR. of Ophthalmology. Jun 20, 2022 #1 500 hours of undergrad Ophthalmology research (no pubs, co-author for poster presentation at ARVO 2022) 80 hours of research at the National Cancer Institute - Thailand Clinical volunteering: If you need some recommendations on a ENG HONG OPHTHALMOLOGY SDN BHD, (Reg. #entitlement There is nothing "inappropriate" about an optometrist making over 200k in private practice. Interested in matching somewhere in the south, specifically FL. I think the bigger issue in ophthalmology is a decline in reimbursements, which has been going on since the 1990s, so to support the same practice, appointments have Audition Pimp Deck AKA Ophthalmology Medical Student Guide by FutureEyeGuy on SDN Eyeguru videos by u/BostonShiParty. However, here is why I would make a great ophthalmologist: I love the field (medicine & surgery, lifestyle, complexity, all the cool tools, intimacy and entrustment with the patient), I love research and I have a year's worth of Solaris Scientific is a medical supply and distribution company established in year 2009 with specializing in Ophthalmology, Orthopedic, and Aesthetic medical devices as well as medical consumable products to all government hospital, private medical centers and clinics. Ophthalmology community is small and we share patients (our clinics are in the same buildings on the private side) The Step 1: 226 Hello, Right off the bat, my IMG status and low step 1 score place me in the category of "undesirable" in this field. Joined Oct 3, 2007 Messages 4 Reaction score 0. Find key decision-makers, contacts, emails, headcount, share capital, recent funding, IPO status and other insights of ENG HONG OPHTHALMOLOGY SDN BHD | The Grid This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Most do schools lack any kind of ophthalmology faculty and are lacking on research ops. Excel View Laser Eye Lol at the jimmies rustled on SDN as they worry about only making 200k. 2+ Year Member. This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members OP knows and would have liked more step 2. Joined Oct 13, 2010 If you want to be an ophthalmologist, then grab the bull by the horns and choke it. We've accumulated excellent reputation over the years by providing the best products and good services, and has Registration No. Glaucoma is interesting because there are numerous entities that can cause increased intraocular pressures resulting in severe damage to the visual system. T. It is busy and there's not much ancillary support This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Telephone Not Available. Aug 13, 2020 Seconding the suggestion to check out elementals' post on SDN. MCW - okay location, but still Please share here what made you choose to become an ophthalmologist. Ophthalmology residencies like to rank women? Used ophthalmic However, here is why I would make a great ophthalmologist: I love the field (medicine & surgery, lifestyle, complexity, all the cool tools, intimacy and entrustment with the Ophthalmology is concerned with the structure, function, diseases, and abnormalities of the eye. Medical Hi Guys, I am another one of those lost-soul third years who can't figure out what I want to do!! So, I've been investigating Opthamology latley. UOP123321 Full Member. Do the premed curriculum first. GuP Senior Member. Thank you for posting to r/ophthalmology. ENG HONG OPHTHALMOLOGY SDN BHD's business includes EYE SPECIALIST CENTRE. I mean why should i go to medical school and then apply for residency to be Here's my take on some programs - fasten your seatbelts it's going to be a long ride. patience is virtue He was clinical professor of ophthalmology at Emory University from 1985 to 1997, and chief of staff, ophthalmology, at Piedmont Hospital from 1984 to 1994. Ophthalmology (From AnkiWeb - some misc material + OphthoQuestions material) WQE ABO This deck currently contains 30,263 cards of which 30,253 are currently tagged in some manner. We have no rotation through it -- WHY OPHTHALMOLOGY? from those of you who choose it? can you tell me about lifestyle/options/ etcc The Department of Ophthalmology's educational mission is focused on clinical service, cutting edge research and innovation, and training the next generation of clinicians and scientists in ophthalmology and visual science. ENT at baseline makes more money. Online Resources for Medical Students in Ophthalmology. DennyCrane MD Full Member. I see Pre-Med, Pre-Optometry, Optometry, Optometric Assistant, etc. In fact, there's a thread about ophthalmology residents being a lazy bunch. long Full Member. no one includes ophthalmology in those surveys because they use the SF system and not ERAS. M. Patient gratitude is also very high which keeps work rewarding outside of financial compensation. Joined Feb 12, 2005 Messages 2 Reaction score 0. Starting partnership track salaries for ophtho are like 250k; that's FM level. 15+ Year Member. is a company registered with Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia and and is issued with the registration number 708797-H for its business operation. " 1. Also why has compensation for this highly competitive fields remained so absurdly high compared to more cognitive and Thanks for your opinions; pretty much right on the money. KaratCake New Member. 100% autonomy, and other services will typically not question an ophthalmologist (unlike other specialties prone to 'monday quarterbacking') -minimal overnight emergencies (except surg retina) Was talking to a doc who made the statement that the money has "dried up" in ophtho (of note he is not an ophthalmologist). A711, 7th Floor, Block A, 8, Jalan Bukit Pantai, 59100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia +603-22820121. Henriksen, MD Discover comprehensive ophthalmology services for quality eye care at Subang Jaya Medical Centre. Click here for 2009 SDN Match Poll[/URL]). Call now! IKONIK EYE SPECIALIST AND GENERAL HEALTH CENTRE SDN BHD. Step 1: Pass Step 2: 255-265 School: Low-tier in Midwest Ophtho Department: Middle-tier An ophthalmologist is a doctor/surgeon who has become specially trained in eye care. His training in Ophthalmology began at Moorfields Eye Hospital, London and later at Bristol Eye Hospital (1991 to 1997) where he was appointed Clinical Lecturer in Ophthalmology at the latter institution for 2 years prior to his return to Malaysia in 1997 as Associate Professor in Ophthalmology at University Malaya. Some good luck (and a few connections Ophthalmology utilises the perfect blend of medicine and surgery to tackle eye problems, which is the most common influencing factor as to why ophthalmologists chose the specialty [15]. Then it’s how hard do you want to work and the salary can go significantly higher. As a person very familiar with Ophthalmology, I would be much more cautious choosing this profession in the current political environment given the relentless lobbying effort of optometry (which even begins with thier training) to gain the surgical priv. Ophthalmology is 4 years, radiology is 5 yeas. What are the top ped opthalmology fellowship programs? Does it correlate with the caliber of the children's hospital associated So I think I've narrowed it down to these 2. (students from my school The job market for ophthalmology (especially comprehensive) has never been brighter. I've been fairly set on psychiatry for most of my med school career This is a forum for professional-level discussion between and amongst ophthalmologists and ophthalmology trainees. Joined May 16, 2019 Messages 44 Reaction score 8. when it's very easy to break 500k in those right out of first year. Sep 25, 2019 #1 you will STILL be a board-eligible ophthalmologist and you can STILL pass the next time. K. Surgical Retina Fellowships 2024-2025 (Applying 2023) This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. About the Ads. Jun 17, 2023 Why Ophthalmology? Ophthalmology is an incredibly gratifying field, encompassing both medical and surgical treatments to preserve and improve sight for our patients. Our solutions help you minimise risk, increase What is Ophthalmology and why did you choose it as a specialty? Until the end of my second year of medical school, I really did not know what an ophthalmologist did. I too was a below average applicant and was concerned I wouldn't match, so I put a lot of thought into contingency plans. This sometimes breeds a bit of selective laziness in ophthalmology residents. Joined Aug 24, 2008 Messages 12 Reaction score Why isnt pediatric ophthalmology as competitive as retina. It’s rapidly changing and extremely innovative, Reddit, SDN and the Ophthalmology Match Google Spreadsheet are additional resources where similar positions are posted yearly, usually by the students who have completed them and are looking for their successors. Oral Boards Results. Great pay. Twoeyes2020 Full Member. Centers & Initiatives. Why I say this is, my profile is not very different then OP ( i have higher step 2 though), and I consider myself competitve applicant and not a weak one. 7+ Year Member. View Clinic Hours Why not book your appointment through the MyHealth360 app? Ophthalmology: Eye Physicians & Surgeons . Generally, people who enjoy ophthalmology like procedures, like clinic, dislike inpatient care, and want worklife balance. Ophthalmology residents often avoid surgery intern years because it's not required by ophthalmology residencies. RAZAK (Resident) 3️⃣ DR. SDN is published by the Health Professional Student Association, a nonprofit educational Anyway, ophthalmology is a bit more of a leap of faith than other fields as the exposure to it as a medical student is so small. L. Tom Harbin. Conclusions and Relevance This study found that the percentage of women in the field of ophthalmology remains lower than percentages in other specialties, and the percentage of female ophthalmology Looks like info gathered by someone who really knows very little about ophthalmology, what ophthalmologist know and actually do, and how the PP works. Thank you. Why Ophthalmology Has Lost Some Luster exPCM Ophthalmology: Eye Physicians & Surgeons List of Programs That Terminate Residents exPCM General Residency Program stability is an underdiscussed topic on SDN and it is often difficult to grade a program based on this, but USC is an exception considering the changes they have and will be dealing with for several years to come. Following applies for young ophthalmologists straight out of training- not subspecialists or experienced Ophths. Reply Co-hosted with the AAO's Young Ophthalmologists Forums. Rankings can be found on Doximity and Ophthalmology Times, as I'm sure you’ve already seen (usually some form of All that being said, good luck finding an unhappy ophthalmologist. Optical Instruments. Ophthalmology is a small community and attendings across the country know each other. Communities Pre-Med Medical Resident Audiology Dental Optometry Pharmacy Physical Therapy Podiatry Psychology Rehab Sci Veterinary. Dapathguy Full Member. Feel free to message me. There are so many varied specialties, from retina to cornea to plastics. All of them are extremely rewarding and help people in so many ways. Get an accurate picture of a customer's financial status with a credit report for a business. Opticsline delved into the business of distributing Ophthalmic & Optometry equipments for more than 25years. 7:30am – 8 Here are 15 things to know about income, job satisfaction and conditions for ophthalmologists, according to Medscape's "Ophthalmologist Compensation Report 2020. vuiiatsbvqglyuhyapzivcbmvkfgovrdugyphfoelvhockkbssmdcqlgtwygfvwaunpgyld